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Chris Craft Commander

Postby mercaholic » Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:31 pm

Picked up this little worn out treasure.... icon_thumbup.gif

I heard Lee Holland had a medical issue so seeking another source of parts.

Anyone got anything available?
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Re: Chris Craft Commander

Postby Tom Brockmeyer » Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:50 pm

Ignition parts are pretty much same as Merc...  

Carb is a Carter, same as Merc...

Bearings & seals are from local supply store (like Mercs...)

Sure looks like a Merc....   Hey!  ECK should SUE those guys for copying the KG-7     (Nevermind... I read now that's exactly what happened)

John, exactly what parts are you after on that Commander (don't say "lower cowling")

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Re: Chris Craft Commander

Postby mercaholic » Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:53 pm

Lots of similarity to the KG7.

A little known fact is that the impeller from a KG7 will fit into the Commander...  :arrow:

Right now, three items  come to mind.  One is decals, the other items are a rubber grip and carb levers.
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Re: Chris Craft Commander

Postby mercaholic » Sat Nov 03, 2018 1:11 am

Found the parts I needed... [wrench.gif]
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Re: Chris Craft Commander

Postby mercaholic » Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:31 pm

BONUS.... :arrow:

Decent ignition Components
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Re: Chris Craft Commander

Postby mercaholic » Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:21 pm

Tom Brockmeyer wrote:Carb is a Carter, same as Merc...



Actually, it was a Tillotson carb on those.  Looks very similar to the Carter design however.
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Re: Chris Craft Commander

Postby mercaholic » Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:46 pm

In my quest to see how far CC went to mimic Kiekhaefer KG7 model, I have been slowly tearing into this motor.

More to come as I proceed.
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I was not satisfied that the water passages weren't obstructed so added a new gasket to the water jacket cover and installed a top of block oullet
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Similar ?
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similar ?
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Lower unit has some simliar design aspects
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Splines configuration are  identical which implies that a Rat Motor could be made to mount on a Commander Tower...hmmm
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Re: Chris Craft Commander

Postby mercaholic » Fri Nov 23, 2018 5:40 pm

More comparisons follow
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Tillotson carb, similar to Carter.
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Thumb screw similarity.
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Same shaft diameter but not splined like the KG7
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A KG7 impeller will substitute for the NLA version.
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Re: Chris Craft Commander

Postby mercaholic » Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:38 pm

Done and tank tested.
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Re: Chris Craft Commander

Postby Fingerlakeskid » Wed Dec 19, 2018 6:04 am

Looks great John!
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Re: Chris Craft Commander

Postby Peter » Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:56 am

She’s a beauty
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Re: Chris Craft Commander

Postby mercaholic » Sun May 12, 2019 8:54 pm

Took the Commander out for a run yesterday and while it started and idled ok, it just did not top out like I seem to recall these things do so I removed the carb to find this had happened.

I must have missed it when I originally took off the carb to clean it.

On the plus side, after 2 hrs of running and fiddling, the original coils didn't break down.  

I now have a lead on another Commander to persue tomorrow.  If I score it, I will continue this thread
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Re: Chris Craft Commander

Postby mercaholic » Thu May 16, 2019 12:45 pm

The new project.  

A little rougher than my previous projects with a few dents and bruises.  Apparently it was found lying on it's side in a guy's back yard area near it's birthplace in Algonac, Michigan.

Compression is only 75 psi on No.1 and 95 on No.2 jug so hoping just stuck rigs that will free up after I tank test it altho I'll first pull off the exhaust cover to see if any scoring.  

At least this one came with the hard to find factory shrouds and most of the other parts seem intact.
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Re: Chris Craft Commander

Postby mercaholic » Tue May 21, 2019 12:02 am

Back from the soda-blaster.

Luckily, it came cheap as the factory paint or what was left of it, came off easy.... icon_thumbup.gif
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